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Apr 15, 2023Liked by Tom Worster

Hi guys, my post is up. Because I don't have an editor and also have too much time on my hands I ended up with three posts about Freddie Hubbard, start here https://www.ctproduced.com/happy-born-day-hubs/

And I've written two more since that are tangently linked. I have a couple of interviews to work on next, after which I'm going to take on the social/racial justice albums of Bob Thiele on Flying Dutchman.

All the best from the Colorado Rockies.

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Hi Mark, first of all thanks for taking the time to comment, we really do enjoy it. It's probably true that we should have talked about the Vietnam war earlier in the episode, but we were both very aware of the fact that we aren't experts nor trying to speak from the expert standpoint, so we would like people to use our podcast as a starting point for their own further investigations, rather than having us read Wikipedia out loud to them. I did mention, (only at the end), that I had curated a selection of documentaries on the Substack page to give people the bare bones of the historical events that surrounded the making of the record. I'm interested that you say that, firstly, how Hubbard became involved with the project and secondly, that he wasn't prepared for the pushback that the album got, as I found it very difficult to find anything about Hubbard's connection with the project. As you could hear from the episode, we were left to a certain amount of speculation, in spite of that, I think we dug up some information and at least started talking about an album that we both feel is as important as it is overlooked. You probably also worked out that I'm the Freddie Hubbard fan and general Jazz aficionado, whereas Tom isn't, so we both have to keep the plates spinning so's not to end up arguing about what's good and what isn't, nevertheless, in this episode we talked quite a bit about Miramoglu, who doesn't get as much attention, so that was OK. I would be VERY interested to read or listen to what you have to say about Freddie Hubbard, ( Do you agree with my appraisal of Out To Lunch, for instance!), and please send me the link for it when it comes out. Please keep listening!

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I think it was a mistake not to deal with the context for this album, before trying to review it. Wah, I'm 31-minutes in and you've not mentioned the significant social/political aspects. It's nuts. It's like reviewing a Christmas Cake without discussing Christmas. Yeah... you got there at 45-minutes. You mentioned the war.... (I know John Cleese knows not to mention the war).

Hubbard's involvement in this project came about because of the treatment of black soldiers in Vietnam. More than twice as many black soldiers were dying as white. Around this time there were a number of albums on social/political commentary especially Bob Thiel's albums on Flying Dutchman.

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Happy New Year, friends. And the same to enemies too.

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